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Post by Pav on Mar 23, 2011 17:49:30 GMT
I noticed that some of you are having problems keeping your gyms in the green - while others are doing well. The key is your first boxer signings. Taking chances on young talent is a good thing when you have some capital that you can stand to lose, but early on in the game it is risk that can bankrupt you. You really should not be looking to sign any boxers that are asking more than $250/week. To get to bigger purses you have to be successful early and get your boxer to be rated in top 5 or so.
Should I start gyms with more than $5k? Should I have boxers ignore new gyms instead of asking for weekly wage of over $400, which some of managers accept too readily. Any other ideas?
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Post by sendorange on Mar 23, 2011 23:24:22 GMT
hmm difficult one to decide. Given how difficult it is to beat a better boxer even at national level, it's pretty disheartening having no real choice but to buy someone crap and then spend months waiting for them to earn enough money to sign someone marginally better.
I was tempted to take a risk on a great prospect on big wages, may well end up doing that.
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Post by Pav on Mar 24, 2011 3:32:15 GMT
hmm difficult one to decide. Given how difficult it is to beat a better boxer even at national level, it's pretty disheartening having no real choice but to buy someone crap and then spend months waiting for them to earn enough money to sign someone marginally better. I was tempted to take a risk on a great prospect on big wages, may well end up doing that. Well, you are doing pretty good. And it is easier to beat opponents at the low half of the national table which is where you are with bums. Come to think of it bums are good investment. You pay little and have very little chance of loosing money. But you are not likely to get a lot of money from them, unless they have good media attribute or are very exiting to watch. (it's possible) |
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Post by UGI on Mar 24, 2011 5:07:09 GMT
I have to admit I have gotten bit by the financial aspect of the game, but i took a chance with a fighter that had a good record so I paid a higher salary. I may have gone broke, but I think over paying him (Nunn) now will pay off in the future. My problem was that I got too greedy and took on another fighter who was overpaid. I had to use the winnings from the bum fighter (Rosenblatt) just to release him. Plus, I didnt realize what the fight contract payouts would be at the lower levels. Doing some fuzzy math, im thinking the average payout in the lower levels would be around $1000. If you have 1 fighter making $150 a week, fighting every 7 weeks, that is just enough to break even. At this point I consider myself a beta tester of the game, so going broke is just testing another aspect of the game to me. You cant have a rags to riches story without the rags part.  As for how much money to start with. I doesnt matter if you gave everyone $100k....most managers are going to find a way to spend what they have and go broke anyway. (like me ;D) My experience was that it was hard to find a boxer that I thought was decent, that my managing style would work with or was in a preferred weight (I dont like the heavier weights). I found 2 boxers from the Houston area, but both seemed to be out of style, out of a preferred weight and/or cans. I ended up searching for a fighter with >75% winning record and that is where I found Jaden Nunn. I thought he was a good find, so I paid him. Some managers may want to take the risk of going broke on a better prospect. Some managers may want to take the safe, cheap route and build up a bum to a world champ. As for setting a wage cap or ignore restictions...im going to have to think about that one.  Who knows, maybe someone will create a newbies guide for box2glory. |
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Post by Pav on Mar 24, 2011 8:50:19 GMT
I have just made it harder to sign a boxer that is way out of your league. It used to be that a boxer with low ambition could agree to sign for tiny gym even if he was a world champ. He would ask for lots of $$ but would not ignore. His ambition was the main attribute used in his decision. Now it is just a modifier.
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Post by sendorange on Mar 24, 2011 12:54:32 GMT
well good news is I signed another boxer, this one is usually top 4, decent excitement level and only wanted $280.
I think it may help if fighters who are willing to join asked for a more precise amount of money, atm it seems there is a big disparity between what some ask for and what they will accept. I think simplifying the negotiation for national level boxers like this would make starting out a bit easier and quicker for new players.
then you can still have complex negotiations for higher level boxers.
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Post by sendorange on May 28, 2011 11:40:57 GMT
Is there any chance of reducing the cost to let staff go? Right now it's as expensive to fire a cutman as a boxer.
Realism-wise it's also the case that staff tend to be let go a lot easier, it's the boxer-promoter contracts which are much heavier in terms of salary and payoffs.
It seems to me a lot of the financial burden is caused by staff and you can't really correct it if you make a mistake and hire too many, or too good staff. At least with boxers you can trade them away, even if you can't afford to fire them.
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