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Post by Rockplace on Dec 7, 2012 4:46:20 GMT
I think the boxing wages are quiet balanced right now. It should be very hard to sign a current world champion legend, but not totally impossible. My best case scenario is that I will make a loss of about $6.5 million for the year duration of his contract, assuming I earn full fight revenue and he doesn't get injured.
There is no way I could afford to keep him for longer than 1 year, or sign another boxer in his wage bracket. Also by signing him, I have severely undermined my ability to be able to afford to re-sign certain boxers in my gym who are potential world champion prospects. I may lose a few really great boxers at contract renewal time.
It is also going to take a few gaming years thereafter so slowly build up my cash reserves again. So the joy of signing a legend does come at a great cost.
Given the costs and sacrifices to be made, I think that a decent balance has been achieved.
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Post by bobjoejim on Dec 7, 2012 6:09:42 GMT
The wages are balanced to the fight purses, but two wrongs don't make a right. I can earn over a million from a fight at continental level (with high excitement, a belt on the line, and home advantage), but because of the cap on fight purses I can never earn MORE than that for any world-level fight, even if I'm defending a world title.
Rather than modifying this, so that world level fighters could generate higher revenue, Pav put a band-aid on the problem by also capping salary demands. It does help, as it's no longer impossible to re-sign world-level boxers. Almost ALL world-level fighters are guaranteed to be unprofitable - but only marginally so, and they have the potential to be offset by one or two continental cash cows. It's better than before, but it doesn't really fix the underlying problem or feel realistic.
And a truly top-eschelon elite guy like Oyal SHOULD demand a salary so high that a gym would need WAY more than 10 million in the bank to even think about trying to sign him - but should also be able to earn enough in his fights to justify whatever crazy wage (and more importantly the crazy signing bonus) that he'd demand.
It's not that it isn't balanced now - it's that it isn't realistic. Your optimal financial strategy, currently is to intentionally lose any continental title fight where you could be promoted. Stay permanently top-two at the continental level and rake in the dough. That's not how it should be. The most profitable (and also the most unprofitable) fighters should both be at the world level - high risk/high reward.
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Post by Rockplace on Dec 7, 2012 6:25:04 GMT
BBJ, I concede your point. You are completely correct that a true balance should be achieved in this regard.
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Post by bobjoejim on Dec 7, 2012 14:27:57 GMT
By the way, I was completely unable to sleep last night, and I spent hours mentally designing a revised, more robust, contract negotiation system that would be similar enough to our current system that it might be viable to actually implement, and that would offer the *potential* to sign certain fighters (at any level, from elite to bum) at rates much lower than their expected earnings, but that would, at the same time, encourage bidding wars between gyms, and make it so that *most* fighters ended up earning fair wages for the revenue they were likely to generate, meaning that fight purses could be uncapped, without top gyms being able to exploit the larger purses for obscene profits and overly dominate the game.
As soon as I figure out how to convert my system from "mental conception" to "suggestion, described verbally in enough detail that a programmer could possibly actually implement it", I will propose it, and see what everyone thinks of it (especially what Pav thinks, of course). Unfortunately that conversion is challenging, lol. It's HARD to express ideas clearly!
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Post by bobjoejim on Dec 10, 2012 19:44:16 GMT
So when exactly is Oyal scheduled to join Rockplace's gym? He still shows as being under contract to Istanbul Tarkan, and lists as being contracted to Week 3, November, 2032. From that it looks like he signed an extension with Tarkan that activated 3 weeks (real-life days) ago. He still has the note, though, that he will "be joining Cape Town Rockplace gym soon".
What's the deal? Will he actually be in the Rockplace stable soon? If so how soon? I need to know for my next article!
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Post by Rockplace on Dec 12, 2012 12:15:30 GMT
Pav, despite receiving confirmation that Taner Oyal accepted my terms, and his bio notes confirming that he will be coming to Rockplace, he has now re-signed with Istanbul Tarkan for a further 2 years.
I have also ensured that there was sufficient space in my gym to accommodate his arrival in order to avoid this scenario from happening.
Surely this must be a bug given the above confirmations and I hope that you can rectify it to ensure the honouring of the agreement reached. Please advise.
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Post by Pav on Dec 12, 2012 13:27:50 GMT
Pav, despite receiving confirmation that Taner Oyal accepted my terms, and his bio notes confirming that he will be coming to Rockplace, he has now re-signed with Istanbul Tarkan for a further 2 years. I have also ensured that there was sufficient space in my gym to accommodate his arrival in order to avoid this scenario from happening. Surely this must be a bug given the above confirmations and I hope that you can rectify it to ensure the honouring of the agreement reached. Please advise. Yes will check
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Post by Rockplace on Dec 12, 2012 13:42:57 GMT
Thanks!
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Post by Pav on Dec 12, 2012 14:20:40 GMT
hopefully he will join your gym next turn.
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Post by Rockplace on Dec 12, 2012 14:36:10 GMT
hopefully he will join your gym next turn. YEAH!!!
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Post by Rockplace on Dec 13, 2012 13:42:46 GMT
Taner Oyal has finally arrived at Rockplace and he is indeed a monster.
I have provisionally simmed him against my stable of Welter and Middleweight boxers under the tourney sim and he seems to be unbeatable... None of my boxers could even last 12 rounds.
Glad I have him for 2031, but not looking forward to facing him thereafter...
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Post by Pav on May 23, 2013 18:21:17 GMT
Will there ever be a more dominant fighter in B2G? Right now it is hard to imagine.
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Post by jetcat on May 24, 2013 13:17:20 GMT
Will there ever be a more dominant fighter in B2G? Right now it is hard to imagine. 60 world title wins and not slowing down he's got "hall of famer" written all over his bio sheet
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Post by Rockplace on May 24, 2013 16:52:15 GMT
Will there ever be a more dominant fighter in B2G? Right now it is hard to imagine. 60 world title wins and not slowing down he's got "hall of famer" written all over his bio sheet I have managed my fair share of world champions and fought many as well. And by a large margin, Taner is by far the best boxer I have ever managed. His stats are through the roof and as it stands he is unbeatable. It has been a privilege to have him in my stable, but by end of this game year I will not be renewing his contract as Rockplace gym is shutting down. Taner has been real expensive on the cash flow, seriously huge cash drain, but it has been a fun ride knocking out every pretender along the journey....
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Post by punchy on May 24, 2013 17:05:43 GMT
Why is Rockplace Gym closing?
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