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Post by Pav on Dec 4, 2012 1:12:45 GMT
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Post by bobjoejim on Dec 4, 2012 2:34:05 GMT
Grrr, I hate that guy.
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Post by punchy on Dec 4, 2012 6:46:59 GMT
He is probably not going to be beaten under the current sim but the right fighter might have a shot under the new sim. Gooch is a solid fighter but I don't think he can beat him under either sim...
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Post by Rockplace on Dec 4, 2012 8:16:07 GMT
You think he is a beast now. Under the new sim he is even going to be more deadly! His very high EXPL is going to cause even more bodies to hit the canvass with the new sim EXPL advancements.
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Post by punchy on Dec 4, 2012 9:29:35 GMT
You have been doing a lot if work on the new sim so I'll take your word for it but I thought that people like Powerlille and Ghost were complaining that EXP is still not working properly?
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Post by Rockplace on Dec 4, 2012 11:06:44 GMT
EXPL under current sim is much less effective in terms of the stun calculations. Some of my most successful boxers have CHIN as low as 6. Under the tourney sim, these boxers are going to be exposed and much more vulnerable to stuns etc
In fact, my gripe under the tourney sim is the unintentional stuns that are being caused. But these unintentional stuns are being caused by boxers that have both decent STR and EXPL. More like the KP Balanced build.
The issue that we have is that the weaker EXPL boxers (such as KP Dancers) are still not viable under tourney sim. By slapping for score they lose endurance too quickly, so an flash after the 5th round is ineffective, and they are not able to recover endurance effectively through resting.
KP Balanced boxers can still fight the endurance battle. KP Dancers can't, so they are just not competitive under either sim.
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Post by bobjoejim on Dec 4, 2012 13:48:00 GMT
Fighter stats start dropping around age 35, right? So Oyal will perhaps become beatable in 9 or 10 game years? Which is to say roughly 15+ real-world months from now? Time to find an 18 year-old welterweight and start grooming him to win a world title when he's 28  |
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Post by punchy on Dec 6, 2012 16:15:31 GMT
I notice that Rockplace has been more cunning than a fox who has been appointed professor of cunning at Oxford University; he's signed Oyal to his gym!
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Post by bobjoejim on Dec 6, 2012 18:24:10 GMT
I thought about doing that, but I'm trying to keep some semblance of role-play to the way I manage my gym, and casting Oyal as a big bad wolf who keeps destroying my hometown superstar made more sense to me. Dammit, though, I already thought Oyal was unbeatable just with AI fight plans. Now I have to try to figure out a way to beat him with ROCKPLACE fight planning for him? GRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edit: Wait... Oyal still shows as belonging to Istanbul Tarkan. Have I been had?
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Post by Pav on Dec 6, 2012 18:35:25 GMT
I notice that Rockplace has been more cunning than a fox who has been appointed professor of cunning at Oxford University; he's signed Oyal to his gym! Wow..this guy is like a legend. I can only image how much he must have asked at the top of this game. Can't believe any gym could afford that. |
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Post by Pav on Dec 6, 2012 18:36:51 GMT
I thought about doing that, but I'm trying to keep some semblance of role-play to the way I manage my gym, and casting Oyal as a big bad wolf who keeps destroying my hometown superstar made more sense to me. Dammit, though, I already thought Oyal was unbeatable just with AI fight plans. Now I have to try to figure out a way to beat him with ROCKPLACE fight planning for him? GRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edit: Wait... Oyal still shows as belonging to Istanbul Tarkan. Have I been had? He is windowed and still under contract so he is going to join another gym as soon as he is done. Look at the Notes section. |
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Post by Rockplace on Dec 6, 2012 18:45:39 GMT
Hehehe! Well spotted Punchy. I put in a cheeky offer and managed to negotiate his wages down. His build, the new sim and my carefully crafted fight plans should make for an interesting combination. But the main purpose is to breakdown his build in the sim and hopefully develop effective fight plans to beat him and similar builds. There are two types of builds that I have identified to flourish in the new sim, builds like Oyal and builds similar to your current tourney boxer. If you can't beat them, steal them. Oh, and Oyal will do wonders for my chess rankings...  |
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Post by Rockplace on Dec 6, 2012 18:59:53 GMT
By the way, even with negotiating him down and only keeping him for 1 year, he is still going to make a substantial dent into my $10 million cash reserves. I ran the numbers and it was always going to be a close call in signing him.
Any ways, thought I should splurge a bit after being a real Scrooge for the last 2 years. Another cliché: fortune favours the brave, but in this case it costs a fortune to be brave.
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Post by bobjoejim on Dec 6, 2012 20:13:03 GMT
Yeah, I even went so far as negotiating with him at one point, and thanks to the fact that salary demands are now capped to make up for the cap on fight purses, he was definitely signable. Obviously expensive, and a guaranteed loss, but not so much so that there was any danger of bankruptcy.
I think the top-level economics need a complete re-visit. The caps on both salary demands AND fight purses should probably BOTH be removed - but that would require some careful balancing to keep top gyms from having it too easy while simultaneously making truly top-flight elite guys like Oyal harder to sign even if you're willing to take a loss.
Rockplace, once he joins your gym I'd love it if you could confirm or deny the explosion 20 that I suspect he has. Obviously there's no way for a scout (who by definition always offers a range) to verify a 20. I have my suspicions though...
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Post by punchy on Dec 6, 2012 20:32:53 GMT
Hehehe! Well spotted Punchy. I put in a cheeky offer and managed to negotiate his wages down. His build, the new sim and my carefully crafted fight plans should make for an interesting combination. But the main purpose is to breakdown his build in the sim and hopefully develop effective fight plans to beat him and similar builds. There are two types of builds that I have identified to flourish in the new sim, builds like Oyal and builds similar to your current tourney boxer. If you can't beat them, steal them. Oh, and Oyal will do wonders for my chess rankings... I noticed because poor Alistair Gooch is due to get hammered by him again on Saturday as the 2 ranked guy is injured...I just picked up a new heavyweight who should flourish under the new sim |
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